i gave my best friend crisis of conscience two weeks ago and she said she probably won't read it.
i hardly have had any contact over the past month because i was fired from where we work.
with every day that passes i worry more and more.
Liberty,
You liked that? thanks! And you are absolutely right about what their response would be. It's like hitting a brick wall. It's God organization, he'll take care of things in his own due time. I had one elder tell me that God allows bad things to happen in the organization to test us. How sick is that? And yet at one time, most of here accepted and agreed with that kind of logic.
i gave my best friend crisis of conscience two weeks ago and she said she probably won't read it.
i hardly have had any contact over the past month because i was fired from where we work.
with every day that passes i worry more and more.
Mackey,
I will chime in only to agree with what others have said. I too have been trying to share what I have learned with a close family member, only to be rebuffed. No amount of pleading, arguing, begging, will have an impact on another person until they are ready to open their mind to an alternative point of view. You could have signed confessions from the Governing Body with photos, that for decades they have ritually abused children while on gambling trips to Las Vegas, using funds from the contributions to the worldwide work to pay hookers and buy Havana cigars while killing small kittens, and this person will dismiss it.
You need to take care of yourself, and be there when your friend does start asking questions.
just got done listening to the mark fuhrman show.
his guest was a lawyer that handles abuse victims that are roc, mormon and 'hovahs.
the groundwork for what happens to 'hovah abuse victims was well laid by the lawyer when furhman took a call from a 'hovah elder named "mike".. poor mike.
Where and when is this show on? Who is Mark Fuhrman? Isn't he the cop from the OJ case?
i've been inactive for a few years now, and yet, despite all i read, i can't feel as you mostly all do.
i have a lot of happy memories of being "in the truth" (and i know how much some here hate that line) and fond memories of the meetings and assemblies, sure it was much easier to break away and live life like i am now,..... but well, thats just how i feel.
i can understand those that may leave for personal reasons, but not sure i'll ever understand some here who have such a hatred of anything jw related.
Six,
Not that I am bitter in the least, lol, but I was always well aware that other churches and beliefs were corrupt and misled. Finding out that my own religion was as bad or in most many cases worse has much more personal passion for me. That's likely why I spend my time on a board devoted to JW issues.
That was exactly the point I was trying to make. Its different when it's your church. I am not defending the Borg, but I think realizing that they are just another goofy religion might help you get over the bitterness.
previously, we considered what might go on at a judicial meeting.now, let's see what the reinstatement process entails.
let's use the example of fornication.
you have been disfellowshipped for this sin and now you want to seek reinstatement.
How about this, a Presiding Overseer who admits to molesting his daughter over several years. DF'd of course, reinstated in 6 months.
Yeah that seems about right. Of course he learned his lesson. The next time he was accused, he simply denied the charges.
i've been inactive for a few years now, and yet, despite all i read, i can't feel as you mostly all do.
i have a lot of happy memories of being "in the truth" (and i know how much some here hate that line) and fond memories of the meetings and assemblies, sure it was much easier to break away and live life like i am now,..... but well, thats just how i feel.
i can understand those that may leave for personal reasons, but not sure i'll ever understand some here who have such a hatred of anything jw related.
Scooby, I am with you on this one. I too remember much that was good about being a dub. It doesn't mean I still want to be one, or that I can overlook all the negative aspects of the religion. What some people here seem to overlook is that the problems within the JW religion are not unique. Other religions can be just as cold, arrogant, judgemental etc. The reason I think some of these people are so bitter is that it was their religion, and they thought it was different or better than other churches.
There is nothing unique about Jehovah's Witnesses.
so many people have given up families and careers, sold their homes, given away all their money, abandonded their children and are searching for the truth about this most important matter, brothers and sisters.
this is a most serious issue in these "trying times" that we need to resolve.
after all, jehovah is watching us, and we simply cannot piss him off now, can we?
What you all seem to be overlooking is this: there is a typical Farkel, and then there is the antitypical Farkel. First of all there is the typical Farkel, who portrayed in a small way the greater, or antitypical Farkel.
Or something like that.
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attention: the british panaroma program "suffer the little children", an expose on child abuse among jehovah's witnesses in the uk and elsewhere, will be rebroadcast on channel 9410 (worldlink tv) this sunday feb. 2, 2003 at 9 p.m. est.
all dish network satellite subscribers who get america's top 150 should be able to access this channel, as may others with c-band satellite dishes (check your satellite provider's guide for the worldlink tv channel..
Okay, I watched it. Its amazing stuff. I wish there had been a little more detail on some of the cases mentioned though.
There was also an update at the end of the show, detailing how a radio call-in show was flooded with calls, and how the British government had started an investigation.
Now if I could just see the 5th Estate.
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attention: the british panaroma program "suffer the little children", an expose on child abuse among jehovah's witnesses in the uk and elsewhere, will be rebroadcast on channel 9410 (worldlink tv) this sunday feb. 2, 2003 at 9 p.m. est.
all dish network satellite subscribers who get america's top 150 should be able to access this channel, as may others with c-band satellite dishes (check your satellite provider's guide for the worldlink tv channel..
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!
My dishplayer is set to catch it!!! Can't wait!!!!!!
so, i just called my former p.o.
cuz i'm madly in love with him and wanted to see him again.
just kidding!
Still don't get it, but hey, whatever. I guess I never considered them as having that kind of control over me in the first place. And I am not really into symbolic gestures, which it sounds like this is.
